Innovating Leadership: Co-Creating Our Future

S11-Ep9: Unraveling Uncertainty: Tesla's Former Interim CEO on the Real Job of Modern Leaders

Guest: Michael Marks, Founding Managing Partner at Celesta Capital & Former Tesla Interim CEO
Politics aside, tariffs simply can’t work without devastating business. That’s just one candid, no-nonsense point Michael Marks brings in his conversation with host Maureen Metcalf.
 
Marks is one of the most respected tech investors in Silicon Valley, with a four decade track record that includes high level leadership and management – including a stint as interim CEO at Tesla, and building Flex from an $8 million to $24 billion company as CEO. His unparalleled success and real-world experience offers rich leadership lessons to profit every growing leader…to profit you!
Here's what Michael and Maureen cover:
The costly impact of tariffs and impossibility of truly separating countries’ economies and supply chains;
Why every good leader needs the three Cs: Curiosity, Conscience, and Courage; and
How curiosity built his businesses, and continues to drive him.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- Mastercard’s Chief Innovation Officer on Fostering a Culture of Innovation with Ken Moore
- Courageous Followership with Ira Chaleff & Neil Grunberg
- Business Disruptions: Are You Disrupting or Being Disrupted? with Mark Kvamme
- How Leaders Thrive through Rapid Change with Chris Nolan & Mike Schindler
 
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn.
 
RESOURCES:  
Learn more about Celesta Capital, Michael’s venture capital firm, at https://www.celesta.vc/. The TechSurge podcast is online at https://www.techsurgepodcast.com/.
 
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here. 
 
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8. The audiobook version is now available at  https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
 
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here. 
 
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:  
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Graphics Editor: Stacia Rogan
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
Theme Music by Pavel Bekirov from Pixabay.
CONNECT WITH US: 
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership 
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2 
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com 
 
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating! 
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About Our Guest:  
Michael Marks is a Founding Managing Partner of Celesta Capital and a host of the TechSurge Podcast. For 40 years, Michael has successfully led and transformed technology companies. Prior to Celesta, Michael was a founding partner of Riverwood Capital, a Menlo Park-based private equity firm, and served as Partner and Senior Advisor at KKR. He spent 13 years as CEO and then chairman of Flex, growing its revenues from $150M to nearly $30B in that time. Michael also served as an Interim CEO at Tesla. Michael served as an Adjunct Professor at Stanford Graduate Business School from 2008 - 2017, and is currently a Board Director for over 20 companies. Michael previously served as a Director for Schlumberger Limited, GoPro, and SanDisk, among others.

S11- Ep8: How Inner Work Transforms Your Leadership: Tools for Growth from Jonathan Reams

Guest: Jonathan Reams, Chief Creative Officer
You’ve been through leadership training; why didn’t it work?
 
Because it wasn’t about you. That’s the conclusion Jonathan Reams – the CCO of Norway’s Center for Transformative Leadership – came to. You’re unique, and most off-the-shelf leadership programs don’t take the time for you to dig deep into yourself to discover what makes you tick as a leader…and as a person. He and host Maureen Metcalf discuss that, and the solutions available to you right now.
Here's what Jonathan and Maureen cover:
Why the elites reserve the best leadership training – and funding – for themselves;
How Jonathan is democratizing leadership development tools so you can use them, too; and
Why you can’t truly grow as a leader without doing deep inner work to overcome “immunity to change” and other personal factors.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
Getting Lost in the Language of Leadership with Jonathan Reams
Growing Up and Out: Development for Modern Leaders with Mike Morrow-Fox
Working & Living in Joy with Pamela Larde, Ph.D.
 
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
 
RESOURCES:  
You can learn more about Jonathan’s leadership initiatives on his website at https://www.jonathanreams.com/ and his democratization of leadership training at https://www.adeptify.co/.
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here. 
 
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8. The audiobook version is now available at  https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
 
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here. 
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:  
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Graphics Editor: Stacia Rogan
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
Theme Music by Pavel Bekirov from Pixabay.
CONNECT WITH US: 
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership 
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2 
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com 
 
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating! 
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About Our Guest:  
Jonathan Reams is driven by an insatiable curiosity about the essence of human nature and how to cultivate this essence in the service of leadership. He uses various outlets for achieving this. He held a position at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology from 2007 until 2024, where he taught and did research on leadership development, coaching and counseling. He served as Editor-in Chief of Integral Review, A Transdisciplinary and Transcultural Journal for New Thought, Praxis and Research from 2005 until 2023. He is also a co-founder of the Center for Transformative Leadership and the European Center for Leadership Practice. Jonathan’s Ph.D. is in Leadership Studies from Gonzaga University.
 
Jonathan practices the cultivation of leadership through consulting and leadership development program design and delivery. He brings awareness-based technology to this work, focusing on how the inner workings of human nature can develop leadership capacities for today’s complex challenges.

S4-Ep13: The Power of Simplicity & Clarity: How a Shell Oil CEO Led through Crisis

Guest: Jeroen van der Veer
Crisis and scandal hit your company. The very first thing you must do: abandon your gut instincts. Blame, downplaying, and delay will all make the situation worse. Then follow the example of guest Jeroen Van der Veer; he became CEO of oil giant Royal Dutch Shell in the midst of a major scandal.
 
He shares what he learned about navigating through crisis in this episode.
Here's what Jeroen and Maureen cover about crisis management and more:
Why owning the situation, even if you didn’t create it, solves far more problems than playing the blame game;
How brutal honesty and absolute clarity bring faster resolution and collaboration with your stakeholders; and
Why future leaders must prioritize the organization’s needs over personal career goals…and how that benefits you much more in the long run.
 
Produced in conjunction with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- Navigating the Global Storm with Cynthia Cherrey
- How Leaders Thrive through Rapid Change with Chirs Nolan & Mike Schindler
- When Tragedy Informs Responsible Leadership with Ann Mukherjee
 
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn.
RESOURCES:  
Learn more about Jeroen on his speaker site at https://bit.ly/JVanDerVeer.
 
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here. 
 
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8 . The audiobook version is now available at  https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
 
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here. 
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:  
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Graphics Editor: Stacia Rogan
CONNECT WITH US: 
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership 
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2 
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com 
 
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating! 
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About Our Guest:  
Jeroen van der Veer was Non-executive Director of Royal Dutch Shell 2009-2013. Previously, he was CEO of Shell since 2004. Before that he was President of Royal Dutch Petroleum Company since 2000, having been a Managing Director since 1997. As CEO, van der Veer led Shell through major change. He is currently Chairman of the Supervisory Board of Royal Boskalis Westminster N.V., and Vice-Chairman of the Supervisory Board of Equinor ASA (Norway).
 
In October 2012 he became Chairman of the Rotterdam Climate Initiative. Van der Veer is an Honorary Citizen of Singapore, and has various roles in several foundations and charities.

S11-Ep7: Cultivating W.O.N.D.E.R. - A Futurist on Unleashing Innovation in Your Business

Guest: Theo Edmonds, Culture Futurist®
We explore the declining state of American innovation in this episode, focusing on the pivotal role of wonder and creativity in driving growth and innovation in the workplace. Our guest, futurist Theo Edmonds, has identified the key innovation barriers: fear, frustration, and fragmentation. He also identifies solutions to overcome them. It taps into something he calls “The Wonder Economy.”
.Here's what Theo and Maureen cover:
Why innovation in business requires much more than simple creativity;
The economic benefits of innovation (and how most American companies are missing out); and
How to implement the six elements to awaken innovation with W.O.N.D.E.R.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- Amazon Execs Share How Innovation Delivers Your Future with Dave Carbon, John Love, Dr. Vin Gupta, & Tye Brady
- The Creative Mindset: Mastering the Skills that Empower Innovation with Jeff DeGraff
- Fostering a Culture of Innovation with Mastercard’s Chief Innovation Officer, Ken Moore
 
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
 
RESOURCES:  
Learn more about Theo’s work at https://www.theoedmonds.com/. Details on his Creativity America initiative are at https://www.creativityamerica.com/.
 
Theo recommends these books for more detail:
The Handbook of Organizational Creativity (two volumes) – Ronnie Writer Paulman, editor; specifically its chapter on the cognitive neuroscience of creativity (Roger Beatty), and the chapter on organizational creativity (Paulman).
Robert Schiller’s Narrative Economics; it’s in paperback at https://amzn.to/4jfPWPr and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3FMqVge.
 
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here. 
 
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8. The audiobook version is now available at  https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
 
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here. 
 
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
 
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:  
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Graphics: Stacia Rogan
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
CONNECT WITH US: 
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership 
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2 
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com 
 
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating! 
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About Our Guest:  
Theo Edmonds is a Culture Futurist®, entrepreneur, artist, and poet reshaping the future of innovation by uniting the best of culture, commerce, and brain science. Over the last 30 years, he has spearheaded transformational projects for Fortune 100 companies, governments, and universities. In 2024, he launched Creativity America, a multi-year initiative to build America’s Wonder Economy. This groundbreaking collaboration with top pioneers in cognitive neuroscience, industrial psychology, business, and the arts aims to increase America’s Creative Brain Capital by 25% within a decade. Recognized as an unconventional trailblazer, Theo is a sought-after speaker and executive advisor in strategic foresight, leading organizational creativity and culture change management.

S4-Ep6b: The Leadership Balancing Act: CEO Michelle Harrison on Work, Life, & Leading Inclusively

Guest: Michelle Harrison, Global CEO, Verian
 
Join us in an engaging conversation with Michelle Harrison as she discusses the challenges of balancing leadership responsibilities with family life. Michelle shares her personal experiences, the importance of transparency, and the contextual nature of decision-making as a leader. She also dives into inclusivity, gender issues in the workplace, and the significance of creating an environment that allows for both professional and personal fulfillment. This candid discussion is a must-listen for anyone juggling leadership roles and family commitments.
Here's what Michelle and host Maureen Metcalf cover:
Why, for women especially, it’s not a work-life balance, but a work-life trade-off;
The invisible algorithm women leaders use in making decisisons; and
Why rising execs so often stay silent about the problems they see in an organization.
Produced in conjunction with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/
 
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
The Bonobo Sisterhood with Diane Rosenfeld
Empowering Women for the Prosperity of Nations with Amanda Ellise & Augusto Lopez-Claros
Winning in the Face of Adversity: Raising Up the Next Generation of Women Leaders with Congresswoman Joyce Beatty & Doug McCollough
To Stop a Tyrant with Ira Chaleff
 
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
 
RESOURCES:  
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here. 
 
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8 . The audiobook version is now available at  https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
 
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here. 
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:  
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Assistant Editor: Devon Mushalko
Graphics: Devon Mushalko & Stacia Rogan
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
CONNECT WITH US: 
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership 
Threads: @innovativeleaders
X/Twitter/Whatever New Name It Has This Week: @IL_Institute 
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2 
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com 
 
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating! 
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About Our Guest:  
Michelle Harrison is Global CEO of Verian, the international evidence and advisory business to governments and multi lateral organisations around the world. Prior to this, she was the CEO of Kantar Public, a division of the Kantar Group, leading its evolution to Verian in 2022 following a management led divestment. In parallel Michelle has had a 20+ year career as a NED and Government Advisory Committee member, which has focused on public innovation, sustainability and social impact investment. She is a Board Director of Social Finance and Big Win Philanthropy, the co-founder of The Reykjavik Index for Leadership, and a member of the Advisory Board for the Reykjavik Global Forum.

S11-Ep6: Leading from Within - A Former Navy SEAL on Transforming Yourself to Lead Others

Guest: Diego Ugalde
What if the key to elite leadership isn’t control, but deep self-awareness and emotional intelligence? In this episode, Maureen Metcalf sits down with retired Navy SEAL, leadership expert, and storyteller Diego Ugalde to explore how authenticity, trust, and inner mastery reshape the way we lead.
Drawing from his experience in high-stakes environments and his personal transformation journey, Diego shares powerful insights on breaking the "warrior mindset," integrating emotions, and leading from a grounded, aligned place. Whether you're navigating executive challenges, managing teams, or seeking personal growth, this conversation offers actionable tools to elevate your leadership and unlock your full potential.
Here's what Diego and Maureen cover:
How self-awareness fosters trust and team alignment;
The paradox that letting go of control creates better outcomes; and
Why rigid leaders are actually acting out of fear (and how to break free from that).
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
From Ego to Impact: Managing with Clarity with Subhanu Saxena
How Your Personal Practices Make You an Exceptional Leader with Kathryn Goldman Schuyler
When Leadership Puts Life on the Line with former Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin
 
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
 
RESOURCES:  
Diego’s book is Leading from the Deep. It’s available in paperback at https://amzn.to/4kODtno, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/4kODtno, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/4kODtno.
 
You’ll find more about his projects at https://thewarriorside.com/ and https://thetridentapproach.com/.
 
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here. 
 
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8. The audiobook version is now available at  https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
 
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here. 
 
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
To Stop a Tyrant by Ira Chaleff, on how leaders become tyrants and their types of followers, is in hardback on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3W5XDys and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/420Zvwc. An audiobook edition is coming soon.
Bedtime Stories for Managers, a collection of short essays from Henry Mintzberg; it’s in paperback at https://amzn.to/4hl6gOb, and Kindle at https://amzn.to/3PYmSiX.
Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ.
Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:  
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
Theme Music by Pavel Bekirov from Pixabay.
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com 
 
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating! 
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About Our Guest:  
Diego Ugalde is a retired Navy SEAL, leadership expert, storyteller, and author of Leading from the Deep. With decades of experience in high-stakes environments, Diego now coaches top executives to lead with emotional intelligence and purpose. His transformational approach blends SEAL leadership with spiritual depth, helping clients unlock new levels of success and fulfillment. He is also the creator of Warriorside, an immersive storytelling experience that reconnects people to their humanity through powerful, vulnerable stories. Diego’s work has been praised for its deep impact, with clients such as Google X and elite leaders across industries.

S4-Ep6: From Ego to Impact: New Rhein's Managing Partner on Leading with Clarity

Guest: Subhanu Saxena, New Rhein managing partner & former Gates Foundation director
 
Divisiveness goes beyond politics. It creeps into the workplace, too, sapping your teams. Great leaders know how to unite instead of divide their organizations so all energy is devoted to success. Those leaders also know themselves.
 
Our guest, Subhanu Saxena, explains that mindfulness is the first step in the self-knowledge the best leaders need. He reveals the timeless leadership advice from ancient Eastern wisdom, and how introspection amplifies the qualities that separate ineffective and effective leadership.
Here's what Subhanu and host Maureen Metcalf cover:
The power of introspection, and why you can’t be authentic without it;
How mindfulness practices help you engage and solve problems, instead of reacting to them; and
The Rule of Five he learned from his German boss as a young leader…a rule that still serves him well.
 
Produced in conjunction with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org/
 
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
Leading with Care and Purpose with Raj Sisodia & Sudhanshu Palsule
Intentional Leadership in a New Work World with Monique Jefferson
To Stop a Tyrant with Ira Chaleff
 
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
 
RESOURCES:  
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here. 
 
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8 . The audiobook version is now available at  https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
 
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here. 
 
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
To Stop a Tyrant by Ira Chaleff, on how leaders become tyrants and their types of followers, is in hardback on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3W5XDys and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/420Zvwc. An audiobook edition is coming soon.
Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ.
Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.
The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Paperback = https://amzn.to/3VEl7cU, Kindle = https://amzn.to/45JGm1L, and audiobook = https://amzn.to/3RPhC2y
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
 
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:  
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Assistant Editor: Devon Mushalko
Graphics: Devon Mushalko & Stacia Rogan
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
CONNECT WITH US: 
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership 
Threads: @innovativeleaders
X/Twitter/Whatever New Name It Has This Week: @IL_Institute 
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2 
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com 
 
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating! 
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About Our Guest:  
Subhanu Saxena joined New Rhein as a Managing Partner in 2017, and is Regional Director of Life Science Partnerships, Europe, with the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. Subhanu is an accomplished executive with experience in Europe, North America, Africa, and Asia, and has worked in pharmaceuticals, fast-moving consumer goods (FMCG), consulting, and banking. Prior to joining New Rhein, Subhanu was the Managing Director & Global Chief Executive Officer of Cipla, a global pharmaceutical manufacturing company with a presence in over 170 countries from 2013 to 2016. Prior to Cipla, from 2009 to 2012 Subhanu served as a Pharma Executive Committee Member for Novartis Pharmaceuticals responsible for Global Product Strategy and Commercialization, having previously been Country President and Pharma CEO of Novartis UK and Ireland from 2005 to 2009. In 2016, he was awarded a Finance Monthly “CEO of the Year” award for India-based CEOs. Subhanu has an MBA from INSEAD and an MA (with Honors) in Engineering Science from Oxford University. He speaks six languages, loves loud music, plays guitar, and is a lecturer and teacher of Sanskrit and Vedanta.

S11-Ep5: The Accidental Peacemaker: How Philanthropist Steve Killelea Pursues Peace in a Complex World

Guests: Mike Hardy, ILA Board Chair, & Steve Killelea, Founder of Institute for Economics & Peace
It happened unintentionally, as if by accident: working in Africa, philanthropist Steve Killelea realized economics and peace are deeply intertwined.
 
Applying the business and leadership acumen that built his fortune in tech, Steve developed his eight pillars for positive peace. These pillars not only predict the fortunes of nations and quality of people’s lives, but hold leadership mindsets we can all adapt to bring similar stability to our own organizations.
Here's what Steve, Mike Hardy, and host Maureen Metcalf cover:
How old metrics of peace actually measured violence – muddying the underlying factors of truly peaceful nations;
The eight pillars of positive peace Steve uncovered; and
How these principles dovetail with the decades of research at Mike Hardy’s Centre for Trust, Peace and Social Relatiions.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
11 Steps to Help You Heal Divides with Mike Hardy
Empathy, Dialogue, & a Good Mood: What Leaders Need in Crisis with Ambassador Thomas Greminger & Peter Cunningham
Work, War, & In-Between: An International Peace Negotiator’s Top Tips for Resolving Conflict with John, Lord Alderdice
 
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
 
RESOURCES:  
Steve’s Institute for Economics and Peace has more information online at https://www.visionofhumanity.org/ and their main website, https://www.economicsandpeace.org/.
 
Mike’s Centre for Peace & Security is online at https://www.coventry.ac.uk/research/areas-of-research/peace-and-security/.
 
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here. 
 
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8 . The audiobook version is now available at  https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
 
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here. 
 
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ.
Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.
The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Paperback = https://amzn.to/3VEl7cU, Kindle = https://amzn.to/45JGm1L, and audiobook = https://amzn.to/3RPhC2y
Everyday Ubuntu: Living Better Together, the African Way by Mungi Ngomane. Hardback (https://amzn.to/48Doh6j) and audiobook (https://amzn.to/48YCRF4)
 
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
 
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:  
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Assistant Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
CONNECT WITH US: 
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership 
Threads: @innovativeleaders
X/Twitter/Whatever New Name It Has This Week: @IL_Institute 
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2 
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com 
 
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating! 
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About Our Guests:  
Steve Killelea A.M is a global philanthropist focused on peace and sustainable development, with a long, successful career in high technology and international business development.  Over the last two decades, Steve has applied his business skills to his many global philanthropic activities, established an internationally renowned global think tank -- the Institute for Economics & Peace (IEP) -- and a private family charity, The Charitable Foundation, which now has over three million direct beneficiaries.
 
Mike Hardy is the founding director of the Centre for Trust, Peace, and Social Relations at Coventry University. The Centre is a multi-disciplinary team of researchers and experts whose work draws together issues such as conflict resolution and reconciliation, social identity, inequality and mobility, wealth and poverty, integration and pluralism, prejudice and discrimination, intergroup conflict and cooperation, the problem of civil rights and the politics of equality. Mike has been twice honoured, awarded the OBE in 2001 for his peace-building work in the Middle East, and appointed a Companion of Honour of St Michael and St George (CMG) in the Queen’s Birthday Honours, June 2010, for his work internationally in Intercultural Dialogue. Mike is a trustee of 3FF, the leading interfaith charity in the UK, and board chair of the US-based International Leadership Association.

S2-Ep37: Navigating the Global Storm: Rethinking Leadership for the Future with Cynthia Cherrey

Guests: Cynthia Cherrey, CEO of the International Leadership Association
There is no single solution. That truism is hard-won wisdom from the leadership experience of guest Cynthia Cherrey. From both research and practice, she’s learned that the issues leaders face are far more complicated than most of us realize.
 
That’s particularly true today, with a surge in confusion and chaos cascading from the global and national levels right down to the teams we lead. Fortunately, Cynthia shares ways to navigate through it all to stay balanced, focused, and help your teams  thrive.
Here's what Cynthia and host Maureen Metcalf cover:
Cynthia’s unique leadership perspectives as the first college graduate from a rural Minnesota family;
Why you need global thinking, even when you strive to “keep it local”; and
The extreme importance of experimentation and flexibility in your organization…and in your own leadership.
Produced in conjunction with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org.
 
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- Africa’s EU Ambassador Redefines Leadership: How You Have Global Impact – with Ajay Bramdeo & Cynthia Cherrey
- Deloitte’s Dean Explains Why Your Old Leadership Style Doesn’t Work Anymore – with Gill Hickman, Jorrit Volkers, & Cynthia Cherrey
- Cooperation, Leadership, & Empathy: George Papandreou’s Path for Meeting Challenges with the former Prime Minister of Greece
 
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
 
RESOURCES:  
You can learn more about Cynthia Cherrey’s organization – as well as their next global conference – on the International Leadership Association website: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org.
 
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here. 
 
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8. The audiobook version is now available at  https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
 
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here. 
 
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ.
Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.
The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Paperback = https://amzn.to/3VEl7cU, Kindle = https://amzn.to/45JGm1L, and audiobook = https://amzn.to/3RPhC2y
Everyday Ubuntu: Living Better Together, the African Way by Mungi Ngomane. Hardback (https://amzn.to/48Doh6j) and audiobook (https://amzn.to/48YCRF4)
 
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:  
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Video & Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
CONNECT WITH US: 
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership 
Threads: @innovativeleaders
X/Twitter/Whatever New Name It Has This Week: @IL_Institute 
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2 
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com 
 
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About Our Guest:
Cynthia Cherrey, is president and CEO of the International Leadership Association (ILA), a global network of leadership scholars, educators, and practitioners. Previously, Cynthia served as Vice President and Lecturer in the Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs at Princeton University. She publishes in the areas of leadership, organizational development, and higher education including coauthoring Systemic Leadership: Enriching the Meaning of our Work, coediting ILA’s Building Leadership Bridges book series, and co-editing Women and Leadership around the World. She is a Fellow at the World Business Academy and a recipient of a J.W. Fulbright Scholarship. Cynthia’s interests and research explore new ways to live, work, and lead in a knowledge-driven, interdependent, global society. She consults and speaks to for profit and nonprofit organizations around the world on leadership and organizational change.

S11-Ep4: How to Keep the Boardroom Stable in Turbulent Times: Tips from the CEO of Competent Boards

Guest: Helle Bank Jorgensen, CEO of Competent Boards
Are you ready for a robot on your Board of Directors? That’s just one change some corporate boards are considering. In these turbulent times, boards must change – but what are the best options to ensure your organization thrives?
 
Helle Bank Jorgensen joins host Maureen Metcalf to provide insights she’s garnered from years of studying boards. She sets the stage by sharing the future we’re facing, based on the forecasts presented at this year’s World Economic Forum in Davos.
Here's what Helle and Maureen cover:
Why misinformation and disinformation are more than political – they can destroy your business;
The role – and risks – of AI and other tech on governance; and
The deeper dive Helle takes on these issues in her new book, The Future Boardroom: How to Transform in Turbulent Times.
More insights from Helle on building better boards:
The Future-Ready Board Member
AI Must Earn Your Board’s Trust
Stewarding the Future of the Planet: Views from the Boardroom
 
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
 
RESOURCES:  
You’ll find many board resources on Helle’s website: https://competentboards.com/.
 
Helle’s newest book, The Future Boardroom: How to Transform in Turbulent Times, is available for pre-order on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3QlOEGn, and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3Qob0qw.
 
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here. 
 
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8. The audiobook version is now available at  https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
 
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here. 
 
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
To Stop a Tyrant by Ira Chaleff, on how leaders become tyrants and their types of followers, is in hardback on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3W5XDys and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/420Zvwc. An audiobook edition is coming soon.
Bedtime Stories for Managers, a collection of short essays from Henry Mintzberg; it’s in paperback at https://amzn.to/4hl6gOb, and Kindle at https://amzn.to/3PYmSiX.
Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ.
 The Future Boardroom: How to Transform in Turbulent Times by Helle Bank Jorgensen reveals the changes boards of directors must make in order to survive and thrive in the near future. It’s available on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3QlOEGn, and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3Qob0qw.
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
 
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:  
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Video & Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
Theme Music by Pavel Bekirov from Pixabay.
CONNECT WITH US: 
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership 
Threads: @innovativeleaders
X/Twitter/Whatever New Name It Has This Week: @IL_Institute 
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2 
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com 
 
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating! 
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About Our Guest:  
Helle Bank Jorgensen is the founder and chief executive of Competent Boards. She has more than 30 years of experience in sustainable business practices. During that time, she has specialized in evaluating environmental, social, and governance (ESG) risks and opportunities for leading Fortune 500 companies as well as smaller and medium-sized businesses.
 
Helle is a member of:
Nasdaq Center for Board Excellence’s Sustainability & ESG Insights Council
World Economic Forum (WEF) Expert Network for Corporate Governance, Leadership, and Emerging Multinationals
His Royal Highness Prince of Wales A4S Global Expert Panel
Climate Governance Experts, Canada Climate Law Initiative
Good Governance Academy’s ESG Exchange Advisory Committee (Chair)
 
Helle is the author of the Amazon bestseller, Stewards of The Future: A Guide for Competent Boards.

S3-Ep5: How to Avoid the Bad Leader Trap with Harvard Fellow Barbara Kellerman

Guest: Barbara Kellerman, Founding Executive Director, Harvard Kennedy School Center for Public Leadership
Bad leadership is everywhere, running the spectrum from simple incompetence to outright evil. So why don’t we do a better job of calling it out, if not fixing it?
Guest Barbara Kellerman shares her ideas and solutions, including how this is seen in both the political and corporate spheres. She also discusses the oft-forgotten but ultimate component for effective leadership: followers.
Here’s what Barbara and Maureen cover:
How the leadership development industry, like many others, follows the money…and leaves learning gaps behind;
What the global political shifts toward autocracy mean about the poor quality of leadership; and
Why understanding followership is so important in creating a good leader.
 
Produced in partnership with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org .
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
Leaders Who Lust: Power, Money, Sex, Success, Legitimacy, Legacy with Barbara Kellerman
To Stop a Tyrant: How Five Types of Followers Make (or Brake) a Toxic Leader with Ira Chaleff
How Influence Leads to Great Leadership with Brian Ahearn
 
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re on Instagram, Threads, and Twitter, too!
 
RESOURCES:  
Learn more about Dr. Kellerman’s work, and read her blogs, on her website at https://barbarakellerman.com/. The article she mentions, “Leadership – It’s a System, Not a Person!”, is available through MIT at https://direct.mit.edu/daed/article/145/3/83/27116/Leadership-It-s-a-System-Not-a-Person.
 
The book behind this interview, The End of Leadership, is available in print at https://amzn.to/3QafDED, and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/4jR1h9W. One of her earlier books that’s a favorite of ours is Leaders Who Lust: Power, Money, Sex, Success, Legitimacy, Legacy. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/4jO25w8 and Kindle at https://amzn.to/4gxMXQs.
 
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here. 
 
She’s also written several award-winning books on leadership development. You can peruse and purchase them here. 
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
To Stop a Tyrant by Ira Chaleff, on how leaders become tyrants and their types of followers, is in hardback on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3W5XDys and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/420Zvwc. An audiobook edition is coming soon. 
Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ. 
Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.  
The War of Art by Steven Pressfield. Paperback = https://amzn.to/3VEl7cU, Kindle = https://amzn.to/45JGm1L, and audiobook = https://amzn.to/3RPhC2y
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:  
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Producer: Dan Mushalko
Video & Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
CONNECT WITH US: 
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership 
Threads: @innovativeleaders
Twitter: @IL_Institute 
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2 
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com 
 
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating! 
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About Our Guest:  
Barbara Kellerman is a Fellow at the Harvard Kennedy School’s Center for Public Leadership. She was the Founding Executive Director of the Center, and a member of the Kennedy School faculty for over twenty years. Kellerman has held professorships at Fordham, Tufts, Fairleigh Dickinson, George Washington, Christopher Newport, and the Tuck School of Business at Dartmouth. She also served as Director of the Center for the Advanced Study of Leadership at the University of Maryland.
Kellerman was cofounder of the International Leadership Association (ILA) and is author and editor of many books. Kellerman has also appeared on media outlets such as CBS, NBC, PBS, CNN, NPR, MSNBC, Reuters, and BBC, and has contributed articles and reviews to the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Boston Globe, the Los Angeles Times, and the Harvard Business Review. From 2015 to 2023 she was listed by Global Gurus as among the “World’s Top 30 Management Professionals.”

S11-Ep3: How Your Leadership Can Rebalance Society – Solutions from Henry Mintzberg & Jonathan Gosling

Guests: Henry Mintzberg & Jonathan Gosling, Co-Founders of One Planet Leadership
What does it take to rebalance society and change the world?
 
Easy: you…and your leadership. Although that answer is easy, accomplishing change can be hard. Guests Henry Mintzberg and Jonathan Gosling have studied this for decades, and share both the issues and the solutions for rebalancing society. It may be difficult for us as leaders – humans tend to be comfortable with the status quo – but the very survival of our species could be at stake.
Here's what Henry, Jonathan, and Maureen cover:
How simple changes in our stock market investing and lead to long-term changes in society;
The importance of realizing that though we have one planet, we live in many different worlds; and
The role of regenerative leadership in moving our organizations forward.
Produced in collaboration with the International Leadership Association: https://ilaglobalnetwork.org.
 
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
Rebalancing Society: Radical Renewal Beyond Left, Right, or Center with Henry Mintzberg
To Stop a Tyrant: How Five Types of Followers Make (or Brake) a Toxic Leader with Ira Chaleff
Leading with Care and Purpose with Raj Sisodia & Sudhanshu Palsule
Salsa, Soul, & Spirit: Leading Your Multicultural Team with Juana Bordas
Cultivating Cross-Cultural Leadership: Comparing Americans & Norwegians at Work with Bjorn Ekelund
For daily wisdom from our guests, be sure to follow us on LinkedIn. We’re onTikTok, Threads, and Twitter, too!
 
RESOURCES:  
The One Planet Leadership organization founded by Henry and Jonathan as more information on their website: https://www.oneplanetleadership.org.
 
Henry’s information on rebalancing society is online at https://www.oneplanetleadership.org. There’s more about Henry on his website: https://mintzberg.org. His book on rebalancing society is available as a free PDF download there, or you can buy it as a paperback at https://amzn.to/3CoxaWt.
 
One of our favorite books from Henry is Bedtime Stories for Managers; it’s in paperback at https://amzn.to/4hl6gOb.
 
The book by Jem Bendell which Jonathan referenced, Breaking Together, is available in paperback at https://amzn.to/4aK8zrI and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/4aK8zrI. The related Deep Adaptation Forum you can participate in is online at https://www.deepadaptation.info/.
 
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here. 
 
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8. The audiobook version is now available at  https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
 
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here. 
 
Books we’re reading for fun or personal development right now include:
To Stop a Tyrant by Ira Chaleff, on how leaders become tyrants and their types of followers, is in hardback on Amazon at https://amzn.to/3W5XDys and on Kindle at https://amzn.to/420Zvwc. An audiobook edition is coming soon. 
Bedtime Stories for Managers, a collection of short essays from Henry Mintzberg; it’s in paperback at https://amzn.to/4hl6gOb, and Kindle at https://amzn.to/3PYmSiX. 
Take Back Your Power: 10 New Rules for Women at Work by Ancestry CEO Deb Liu, on how to overcome the obstacles women still face in the workplace – especially in tech. It’s in hardback at https://amzn.to/47OUO9E, and audio at https://amzn.to/3Y6EmOQ. 
Covert Cows and Chick-fil-A by Steve Robinson; it’s available in hardback at https://amzn.to/460LnmQ, on Kindle at https://amzn.to/3RVXhZs, and as an audiobook at https://amzn.to/3xPjBgn.  
 
NOTE: As an Amazon partner, we may make a small commission from books you buy through these links.
 
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:  
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Video & Graphics Editor: Devon Mushalko
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
CONNECT WITH US: 
YouTube: @InnovatingLeadership 
Threads: @innovativeleaders
X/Twitter/Whatever New Name It Has This Week: @IL_Institute 
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/ILI-LinkedIn2 
TikTok: @innovativeleadership
Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com 
 
Loved this episode? Leave us a review and rating! 
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About Our Guests:  
Jonathan Gosling is Emeritus Professor at Exeter University and Founder and Director at Pelumbra. He was co-founder of the One Planet MBA and is Lead Faculty with the Forward Institute in the UK. He co-founded the ‘RoundTables’ programme with Henry Mintzberg in 2006. 
 
Henry Mintzberg is a leading expert on managing, organising and strategy. Author of many books and articles, he co-founded and is a key faculty member of the ‘Roundtables for Experienced Managers’ programme. He’s also an avid collector of beaver sculptures: https://mintzberg.org/sculptures.