Tuesday Apr 15, 2025
S11- Ep8: How Inner Work Transforms Your Leadership: Tools for Growth from Jonathan Reams

Guest: Jonathan Reams, Chief Creative Officer
You’ve been through leadership training; why didn’t it work?
Because it wasn’t about you. That’s the conclusion Jonathan Reams – the CCO of Norway’s Center for Transformative Leadership – came to. You’re unique, and most off-the-shelf leadership programs don’t take the time for you to dig deep into yourself to discover what makes you tick as a leader…and as a person. He and host Maureen Metcalf discuss that, and the solutions available to you right now.
Here's what Jonathan and Maureen cover:
- Why the elites reserve the best leadership training – and funding – for themselves;
- How Jonathan is democratizing leadership development tools so you can use them, too; and
- Why you can’t truly grow as a leader without doing deep inner work to overcome “immunity to change” and other personal factors.
Other episodes you'll enjoy:
- Getting Lost in the Language of Leadership with Jonathan Reams
- Growing Up and Out: Development for Modern Leaders with Mike Morrow-Fox
- Working & Living in Joy with Pamela Larde, Ph.D.
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RESOURCES:
You can learn more about Jonathan’s leadership initiatives on his website at https://www.jonathanreams.com/ and his democratization of leadership training at https://www.adeptify.co/.
Our host Maureen Metcalf posts a newsletter every week on LinkedIn. You can subscribe here.
Maureen’s latest book is Innovative Leadership & Followership in the Age of AI. You’ll find details about it at https://bit.ly/LeaderInAI, or check out the Kindle version at https://amzn.to/44buVz8. The audiobook version is now available at https://amzn.to/4dTCleZ.
Her other 10 books are available on Amazon here.
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OUR PODCAST TEAM:
Host & Executive Producer: Maureen Metcalf
Editor & Executive Producer: Dan Mushalko
Graphics Editor: Stacia Rogan
Booking Producer: Jenna Reik
Theme Music by Pavel Bekirov from Pixabay.
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Website: InnovativeLeadershipInstitute.com
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About Our Guest:
Jonathan Reams is driven by an insatiable curiosity about the essence of human nature and how to cultivate this essence in the service of leadership. He uses various outlets for achieving this. He held a position at the Norwegian University of Science and Technology from 2007 until 2024, where he taught and did research on leadership development, coaching and counseling. He served as Editor-in Chief of Integral Review, A Transdisciplinary and Transcultural Journal for New Thought, Praxis and Research from 2005 until 2023. He is also a co-founder of the Center for Transformative Leadership and the European Center for Leadership Practice. Jonathan’s Ph.D. is in Leadership Studies from Gonzaga University.
Jonathan practices the cultivation of leadership through consulting and leadership development program design and delivery. He brings awareness-based technology to this work, focusing on how the inner workings of human nature can develop leadership capacities for today’s complex challenges.